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people who do know it is a lie but they choose to repeat the lie and choose to live in that alternative reality? >> well your exactly right. there is a tendency to think this is somehow based on education or experience or anything else. and it is not whether you went to college or where you went to college that is the most likely predictor, it is whether you consumer right-wing media. you're more likely to bring conspiracy theories about vaccines and elections. that is the problem in this country. is that we have a very well funded, very aggressive operation that is spreading these l...

And he said, don't go into your job thinking what do i want out of this. if you want -- how is a manager going to be judge and when you figure out, what the managers goals are, figure out how you move your area toward those goals. it is like what i say in negotiations, we've talked about this an awful lot, when i'm negotiating, i don't think about what i want. i think about what does my boss want. what do they need. how could i help give them what they need and they could give me what i need. it is the same thing that he said. manage the manager. so charles blow. >> that is great. >> career ad...

I'll just never look at a brilliant, bright blue, hopeful, fresh sky anymore without thinking about 9/11. because it was such a beautiful day and the sky was so blue. it was so blue. and my girls were really young. they were 3 and 5. and they were starting their little schools, amelia had a uniform, they were so excited. their dad was an investigative reporter at channel 7 so he was down there and did incredible work that day, we both were down there somewhere far apart in the city covering it. and as you said, joe, i was starting a new job at cbs and the star reporter there, byron pits said c...

Towers. i found myself standing right next to byron pits of all people. and we looked up and he was pointing the flickers in the sky, and i thought it was like a debris or -- from the fire and the building. and i noticed that the building appeared to be swaying. and i thought for a second, god, could it fall down? no way, not possible. and that's when byron pointed out to me that the flickers were people. and that's when i fell into a trance just looking at the flickers of the people jumping from the building to get out from what was in there. and then the building began to just crumble undern...