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Department's ruth madrigal says, don't know who in your organization is keeping tabs on c-4s, i've got my radar up. this seemed interesting. other than sparks flying, what is going to come of this? let's start with you. you were following the hearing this week. what did we learn that we didn't know before? >> the obama administration has this line that there was no corruption, no targeting, all caused by low-level employees in the cincinnati office of the i are everyone s who didn't understand a confusing law on confirming 504 c-4 groups. >> we learned something that contradicted that this wee...

Empirical oversight. and innuendo, and drawing conclusions and paranoia do not substitute for fact-based empirical oversight. >> here are the facts, she filed for an application of c-4 status and subsequently was visited by osha, atf, and was audited by the irs. >> mr. chairman. >> i would say mr. chairman you should be on the panel given your views. >> republican ohio congressman jim jordan was the chair of that committee hearing today and is with us today, good to see you, congressman. what a spirited exchange, you being accused of paranoia, of mccarthyism -- >> well, what happened to kather...

Being reunited soon is if jennifer's fighting charge is dropped or reduced at her disciplinary hearing. the outcome could be the difference between seeing danica within a matter of hours or months. >> so they read you your rights on march 15. you understand your rights? okay. so i'm going to charge you with the c-4. i'm going to dismiss the c-3 because the officer said once she gave you the directive to stop, you did stop, okay? how do you plead? >> guilty. >> jennifer's guilty plea on the lesser of the two charges means she will be out of solitary in 12 days, sooner than she thought. >> oh, m...

Away from danica for the rest of her eight-year sentence. >> don't get upset because you don't know yet. >> well, i'm expecting the worst but praying for the best. >> i'm about to flip. >> can we go look through the windows? >> let's see. >> you know who i am, lieutenant james. you received, the state said, at about 7:18 she heard someone yell "fight." when she ran around the corner, she observed you and inmate teresa westbury in a physical altercation where you were kicking and stomping her. you understand your rights? the recommended charge right now is a c-4 and a c-3. as you are aware, i c...

Of activity and formalizes what they were doing during the 2012 election. >> speaking of the 2012 election, it looked like they were unfairly targeting conservative groups. has that gotten better? >> i don't think it has. think about these groups that spent years trying to get their 501-c-4 status and now they will be told after this 90 day comment period that they have to change their organization period, it is a way to keep people from focusing on what they should be doing. >> you would like to see as many people as possible write into the i.r.s. and complain about the new regulations; right...