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Starting in 2010 a number of democratic senators, democratic senators sent letters to the irs asking them to investigate various groups that they said were seeking tax exempt status but were improve involved in politics. in october of 2010 you sent a letter to the irs in which you talked about going after groups but you only mentioned one specifically by name and i want to put up this from the october 2010 letter that you wrote to the irs. one organization whose activities appear to be inconsistent with its tax status is crossroads gps that, of course, the group cofounded by karl rove. why i s...

Know when the week began. >> well, on the irs scandal i learned to file for c-4 tax status you can just assert it. they are behaving like they have and nobody has challenged it. so all the groups that have been challenged are saps. they didn't have to file. and steve miller said it was his idea to have her ask someone in an audience, to ask her the question. he thought it was a good way to get ahead of the story. now if that's what they know about pub lig relations and media, it tells you how they perform in a lot of areas. >> first, i was surprised at the

Were really ridiculous. however, i think what we really could work together on is the inspector general report had some very specific recommendations. especially around the definit n definitions we have on the 501 c-4, the number of people who filed for the tax exempt status has doubled. so there clearly are problems according to the report whether something is exclusively or primarily in these tax exempt status, or if they're political operations. and it is not clear. so i think where the employees did a very wrong turn in trying to solve this by going after certain words that seem to be poli...

Something this badly. now, i want to be very clear, the irs has an obligation to investigate. i don't like your use of the word "target." if you file and request tax exempt status and you write on your application we're going to be engaged in political activity, the irs is required by congress to investigate you. on the other hand, congress has also said you can declare you're a 501 c-4 organization, we need to fix this. my column says you can fix this with eight words, all they have to do is put in section 501 c-4 exclusively devoted to promoting social welfare, comma, and prohibited from eng...

And you just can't bungle something this badly. now, i want to be very clear, the irs has an obligation to investigate. i don't like your use of the word "target." if you file a request tax exempt status and write on your application we're going to be engaged in political activity, irs is required by congress to investigate you, on the other hand, congress has also said you can declare you're a 501 c-4 organization, we need to fix that. my column says you can fix this with eight words, all they have to do is put in section 501 c-4 exclusively devoted to promoting social welfare, comma, and pro...