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Cases come through. they were acknowledging they were going to be engaged in politics. this was the time frame in 2010 when citizens united was out. there was a lot of discussion in the system about the use of c-4s. people in cincinnati decided, let's start grouping these cases. let's centralize these cases. the way they centralized it, troublesome. the concept of centralization not. we're not targeting these people in that sense. what we are doing is making sure that we bring them in and have people -- >> let me ask you this, you said incorrect. but not untruthful. >> yeah i -- >> he was not ...

Bite four minutes with the president and his emissaries. his advisors coming out and ripping on these so-called special interest groups who won't disclose their donors. they are talking about 501 c 4s. the very groups that have been targeted by the irs. joining me now lou dobbs. host of lieu dobbs tonight joe trippi former campaign manager and fox news contributor. 501 c 4s are these campaign organizations. they are not supposed to be devoted entirely to political matters. they were in the crosshairs of the president and many on the left beginning in 2010 in particular. that's exactly when thi...

That someone saw some tea party faces come through. they were acknowledging they were going to be engaged in politics. this was the time frame in 2010 when citizens united was out. there was a lot of discussion in the system about the use of c 4s. people in cincinnati decided let's start grouping these cases. let's centralize these cases. the way they centralized it, troublesome. the concept not. we're not targeting these people in that sense. what we are doing is making sure that we bring them in and have people -- let me ask you this. you said incorrect but not untruthful. >> yeah. >> was he...

Republicans six months of harping on talking points would be too much, nothing is too much for them. >> part of it is he thought he did release them earlier. he released them several months ago to the people that were so desperately interested in them. they had them, they read them, nothing came of it. >> this has been his consistent flaw to the extent he had one in his presidency, trusting too much that they're operating in good faith, that they're interested in the facts, that they will, you know, if they see the evidence there that there was no on page 59, the white house saying this will s...

Association, et cetera. the 501 c-4 is a specific nonprofit known as social welfare groups think civic leagues and local volunteer fire departments which according to the irs function merely for the purpose of betterment and social improvements. unlike their cousins, however, c-4s may engage some some political activities, this is according to the irs, so long as that is not their primary activity. it's a marquee definition that's given c-4s a whole lot of wiggle room to play politicses. c-4s are attractive because they're tax exempt and mostly because they allow donors to remain anonymous. th...