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Overwhelming popularity in new jersey. is this really just because he appeared with the president of the united states after a major tragedy that occurred in his state? >> oh, no. >> was that the crime? was that the sin? >> i'm sure that had nothing to do with it, martin. i think there was probably just -- let me just tell you in washington speak, we would say there was a scheduling conflict. so i'm sure it was something of that nature. no, look, i think greta pointed this out last night rightfully so, this is a very clear message not just to chris christie but to others who may be thinking ab...

Hagel's opposition, whether it's to the iraq war or to the other challenges he's issued throughout his career, they're merited. elected officials are just that, they're elected to ensure that we make wise decisions about engaging in war, about engaging in what's best for us politically and economically. i think we're seeing just the opposite of that right now even with sequestration. you know, today senator reid mentioned that it's been 12 days and what have the republicans gained from this kind of protest? you know, they held out on senator hagel's nomination because of benghazi. he's not bei...

Pointed out. chris christie is kind of forging his own path. he is doing what -- i actually think what he believes is right for the people of his state, but here is the challenge and we've seen it time and time again. i mean, i would remind ari that the argument against mitt romney and john mccain when it comes to the cpac crowd is they were not true conservatives, and this is the real fundamental struggle within the republican party, right? some are saying we've got to move farther to the right and have a true conservative. others are saying maybe not, let's look at the demographic changes. l...

They didn't like john mccain, they didn't like mitt romney. cpac doesn't even pick the gop nominee. as the whole party does move to a right, and it is a real problem, chris christie having cpac against him as a republican potential presidential aspirant is a good thing. the other thing chris christie did on policy and i will be the first to praise him not on appearing with obama but on working with some of obama's policies is he, according to sources in new jersey, is going to come out in his big state address -- >> today. >> -- today and welcome and apply and use some of the obama care money ...

If you don't fit in this box, they want nothing to do with you. the exact reason is that he befriended the president two weeks before the election. that just shows how small minded this group is. in fact, i would take it as a compliment if i was christie. >> they actually said this while you were in the room? >> no, i talked to people in the room. the reason they made this decision was because of the fact that you stated before. simply because he befriended the president. he snubbed romney during hurricane sandy. two weeks before the election. that's the main reason they said don't come speak....