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At msnbc and elsewhere in a cable culture that i would say encourages pretty hot talk. >> no and yes. no -- >> what are you saying >> there's two distinct arguments here. no, in that they are still going to continue to be bombastic. yes, you step over whatever imaginary line this is you're out. you won't be as much of an attack dog. >> let me move on to somebody who is an attack dog and that's chris matthews, president obama trying to bounce back a bit from the health care debacle, gave the host of "hardball" and exclusive interview this week. let's take a look. >> what's going to stop and arr...

Hoping that that actually plays true. on the other hand, just do know in today's media environment where things happen so quickly in this 24/7 cable culture, it is worth noting if we're still going to be talking about this two or three months from now. if we are, that's a big victory for democrats. if we're talking about something else, republicans would like to pick other fights. >> well, i have a feeling we'll be talking about this, mark, because it is only a two-month extension and being on capitol hill every day tells me that the same fight will surely boil over again. mark murray, deputy ...

Yet, before they even got into the power, they picked a fight with rush limbaugh. remember james carville about did the push poll who is the most hated republican out there? it was limbaugh so so before he they were in the white house they picked a fight with limbaugh and picked a fox -- a fight with fox, their ratings went up. they were attacking him like he was an mit economist. he has a show called mad money. he hits horns all day but they picked fights with the leaders of this 24/7 cable culture. >> live by the freak show. die by the freak show. >> and i got to say, buchanan from the begin...

Doing the stories we should do? obviously, the white house and the agriculture department so sensitive to this that they wan to nip it in the bud before doing the due diligence be. >> but there's a story we have been following for a while, is this administration too obsessed, not only with cable culture, but specifically with fox news? i mean, they have gone after fox news on numerous occasions, but i think another reason why this is sort of resonating in a political sense is that it goes to this question of who is barack obama, what is the administration about? is