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Yet, before they even got into the power, they picked a fight with rush limbaugh. remember james carville about did the push poll who is the most hated republican out there? it was limbaugh so so before he they were in the white house they picked a fight with limbaugh and picked a fox -- a fight with fox, their ratings went up. they were attacking him like he was an mit economist. he has a show called mad money. he hits horns all day but they picked fights with the leaders of this 24/7 cable culture. >> live by the freak show. die by the freak show. >> and i got to say, buchanan from the begin...

This as governor of iowa? wouldn't you have said to someone who brought this report to you, what else did she say? this woman spoke, you know, for 45 minutes and we showed -- and everybody showed a clip of less than a minute. she was speaking about an event that happened 24 years ago. there was no perspective put into this. joe, this is just, you know, as you said, it's just horrific indictment of a lot of institutions here. >> well, it is. and i'm afraid, pat buchanan, it goes to this white house that said they weren't going to be obsessed by the 24/7 news culture. they weren't going to be fi...

They went to war after "mad money," you said don't shoot down. here, you have an administration saying hurry up and fire somebody before a cable news show comes on in the afternoon. pat, i have got to believe that would be unpresidented, not only in the two communication shops you work for for nixon and for reagan, but i couldn't imagine the clinton white house doing this. this is pure full-out panic at a show that -- i don't know, pat. i am stunned. this is shooting down i've ever seen shooting down. i'll just leave it at that. >> well, you know, joe the word you got there, is panic is exactl...