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Rates are actually -- >> let me get back to the congresswoman -- look, i have to go back and forth in a reasonable way or we're get into a stupid cable fight. i'm not doing that tonight. let me ask you another question, if you could have gotten a better deal to get bergdahl back, what would it have been, five, four, three, none? what would you have given the taliban, or would you have given them nothing? >> that is a question, a hypothetical, you really can't answer. >> it's the question the president had to answer himself. >> right right, but chris, the deal that he took, the deal he took, yo...

Guantanamo, that's why they passed that law, so he wouldn't empty guantanamo in one or two fell swoops. he didn't do that. there's still 100-something guys there. then there's the constitutional question you address. the five guys, we have statistics about this, chris, people have studied the recidivism rates of people that have gone back there. >> they asked for these five. >> i know that. >> they are not backing fighting -- look at them hugging. this is a former chief of staff of the army. >> i understand that, they are dangerous guys. there's always the risk, but look, the bush administrati...