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Make sure these things aren't able to be reversed by executive fiat -- >> you're looking at it right now. these people right here it's like a lot of things people didn't know when he became president until they started to take it away and wait a minute, man, look what that's done. we changed the cafe standards. that means boom. that means bang. everybody knows now. knows what he has done and it's raised the ante significantly. no one can any longer, i remember when i introduced that bill back in 1986, what are you talking about biden? what's the crisis? it wasn't -- we didn't have super storm ...

Criteria air pollutants under president trump's watch. sulfur dioxide and led have been decreased double digit percentages over the new york attorney general. the -- she announced an hour before we release the rule. i would've hoped she would've read the regulation first before she said she was going to sue u us. >> neil: do you look at climate change as a legitimate problem? >> yes, it's a problem and we are addressing it. our regulations will reduce eot from -- reduce we are coming out with cafe standards which will reduce co2 emissions and we are coming out with a new methane proposal which...

>> when you talk to inslee you feel it, though? >> thank god. >> you go in there and think this is an issue. you listen to jay inslee and all you think is all i want to do is fix the climate. >> but the president isn't clearly willing to articulate that climate change is an issue? the president has instinct where he knows. >> he might be. >> except this, ali. he lives in the white house. he had enough good instinct to know what would get people to vote. the fact that he doesn't make this a priority, should that not be a clue to jay inslee, if you get yourself to the general, you got to first c...

Nobody understands what it did. i'm in an industry that's more fragile -- i'm not in it, i used to be. i represent an industry, the auto industry, that's more fragile than people realize. so when they have uncertainty with trade, now you have regulation coming down on the cafe standards where there's a threat of having two sets of standards, and you have union negotiations coming up. this is an industry that needs stability and certainty. now, we need trade policies. general motors last august put a blazer plant in mexico. i know they're tired of hearing me say this, but they did, and they're ...

Billion tons of co2 globally a year. we need to rejoin paris. we are the -- we mitt about five billion tons a year. china is actually twice as much. we cannot do this alone. we need to regain our leadership in the world. we need -- we could actually then get back in the cafe standards. you also need to say let's actually figure out short-term and long-term how we get to 2040 there has been more coal plants closed in two years, two and a half years of trump than in eight years of obama. by and large, these were older plants. ice makes a difference and consumer prefers. >> do you think coal plan...