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Pac, outstanding mitt romney, the candidate himself two to one this time around, allowing mitt romney to come out and say these lofty things, patriotic speeches, while the dirty work, so-called, behind the scenes is coming from the super pac. you think mitt romney should come you the and say no more negative campaigning as his campaign has attacked newt gingrich? >> i think all the candidates have super pacs thought running ads, a lot of outside money coming in, candidates don't control that, they don't have any control what's gone by some of the outside groups. somebody once said, politics is...

Didn't do it in iowa. >> can i just add, rachel, having covered ron paul four years ago i thought new hampshire, his big play four years ago, do better than he ended up doing, i think the result here is going to end up being a tick less than people expe expected. this is the second go around now where i find a big show of people saying i'm for ron paul and part of it, for some people, dramatic affect, then when they get down to whether they are going to actually vote for the guy there is about a 5 to 10% shrinkage there that is going to end up being meaningful here. ron paul could have used to...

Nominee, are you his vice president? >> i doubt that but i certainly want to help him. i'm going to be back in the united states senate looking forward to working with the republican president because we have big challenge ahead. >> if he asked, would you say yes? >> i have not given any consideration to that and it is very premature. right now, he needs to win the nomination what he is focused on. >> senator, nice too visit with you. rachel, back to you. >> peter alexander at romney headquarters with senator john thune, at one point was, himself, considered to be a potential hot ticket, a man...

That. and he was describing himself. >> wow. there was a moment like that in "16 candles" with anthony michael hall, hoe was king of. we will talk about that later. >> congressman saying we don't fall in love, we fall in line a great rallying point. >> chris matthews in des moines. chris, i know want to get in on this. go back to me in des moines. i want to bring in david gregory right now, he is with us and been looking, i believe at the evangelical vote now. he is the moderator, of course, of nbc's "meet the press." david? >> chris, we have been talking about this a lot tonight, what are the...

All. the rick perry campaign had said, an adviser to the rick perry campaign sort of hinted to the new york times this week, if he was looking at fifth or worst -- fifth or worse, he might be going home. so one of the things that iowa does is it win knows down the field. not only picks winners it picks losers. if rick perry does go home tonight, i'm not saying he will, since the campaign hint at it, maybe he will, i think he likes his job in texas, if he does go home, who gets his points? who gets his ten points? >> i think initially some of it's going to go to rick santorum. >> really? you do...