High bmi because they're very muscular, you know, and as a result, their bmi is high, but they don't have very much fat. chris cuomo, for example, likes to brag how muscular he is all the time. he probably has a high bmi. he is not probably obese. but you got to -- you know him, right? >> that's a whole another show, but go on. >> a whole another show. once you start combining the bmi with the other things, the cholesterol, the coronary calcium scan we were mentioning, the fact that he is on the statin drug, these things in combination could cause a fair amount of concern. as you point out, an...