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They want to call. shutdown the argument that he's mocking the truth. bring them out, let them ask the questions. if it's a useless witness, that will become apparent to the american people. >> jessica: i want to pay you back on that, to what you said, kennedy. about how emotional jim jordan has been about this. i've read several pieces that have said the administration has not been thrilled about how well devin nunes is doing as compared to jim jordan. he's thrown himself in front of a camera every time there's one available. he's gone full's out. he's backing the perfect call argument here, ...

President for their own survival. >> yeah. you know, this call is the scene of the crime. >> yes. >> and what we learned today with this "are you talking to me" like travis bickle, robert deniro's character on "taxi." "are you talking to me?" donald trump, it was a perfect collapse for all time. he cannot make that perfect call argument, that stonewalling argument any more because he can't and won't answer the question about what he wanted the president of ukraine to do regarding the bidens. so if you think that the press is going to stop asking this question, i've got a bridge to sell you. he...

President for their own survival. >> yeah. you know, this call is the scene of the crime. >> yes. >> and what we learned today with this "are you talking to me" like travis bickle, robert deniro's character on "taxi." "are you talking to me?" donald trump, it was a perfect collapse for all time. he cannot make that perfect call argument, that stonewalling argument any more because he can't and won't answer the question about what he wanted the president of ukraine to do regarding the bidens. so if you think that the press is going to stop asking this question, i've got a bridge to sell you. he...

That. so i struggle to see whether there's a legal logic. the white house said you can vote this way or sacrifice your political office and a lot of them said i'm not going to sacrifice my plate call argument. in other words, poll tex over princip principle. you defend the constitution. there's nothing more clear than what the constitution says. article i puts it out that the congress gets to appropriate money. in this case it was debated. it there came a bite once you say you're going to give up that principle, you destroy the entire balances of power that i lou appropriations bills to come

Added his voice stating we do neat to study this public health issue. we studied auto fatalities but that didn't end up eliminating cars. i think that's an ideology call argument against gun violence i think it's helpful in moving this forward. >> a couple years before he died he went out an mpr and he said he's regretted his provision prevented gun studies. >> did you intend to cut off all research on the effects of guns or gun ownership in society? >> we didn't think about that. it turned out that that's what happened, but it wasn't aimed at that and it wasn't necessary that all research sto...