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Tactics for getting them to do so. coercing them, call iing them o, treating nato as a protection racket is the wrong way to talk about allies and i want to remind everybody that the only time the alliance has gone to war together was when we were attacked on september 11th and nato allies have died next to us fighting in afghanistan. you can't put a percentage of your gdp per capita to that commitment and i would hope that the president in his retorhetor and public remarks would remind everybody of the sack rifice na allies did to protect us against a terrorist attack on september 11th. >> se...

Witness. >> what is troubling? >> i'm not going to get into the details of the testimony obviously, but i think it's troubling that there's talk of rudy giuliani and some of the white house officials you know doing what they were doing with the ukraine. pushing. so this is all troubling and i'm not going to get into the details obviously. i'm not going to diville nlg what's being said in confidence in committee investigations, but certainly i will say that today's testimony was explosive and that taylor is the number one witness that i heard from so far. >> you're coming on our air, call iing ...

>> so you were listening to how credible did he sound to you today? >> there were a lot of i don't recalls and i don't remember. but the opening statement that ambassador sondland is now in public domain is very, very bad for the president because he links ewe u crane policy to rudy giuliani and rudy giuliani if you read his tweets and public statements at the time was very publicly advocating for investigations of the democratic national committee and of the bidens and we know rudy giuliani has said very recently he was working on behalf of ds and now from mick mulvaney, we know there was a q...

Number, meantime the white house and republicans, want to up the number to 52,000. kaitlyn collins is in el paso where this evening, president trump will be making his case to those who live on the border. she's leave ng a kouchl minutes, but just huddled with key staffers. tell me what you learned about that. >> yeah, he had a meeting scheduled with some staffers to discuss not only how they want to fund this. the president is set on getting, but now we're told by sources inside the house the president was going to be meeting with some officials what about their response is going to be for th...

Racist. >> that, of course, is democratic senator duick durbin of illinois confirming the president call iing the dictato s-h-i-t holes. there's the lineup on the screen. you can see across the top you have dave purdue, tom cotton, dick durbin that we have heard from. and you have dave perdue from georgia. his background is corporate america. if you were a ceo, if jaime dimon, a close ally of president trump, uttered anything like this, they would lose their jobs. they would lose their investors. so i wonder, dave perdue, given dave's background, what a