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The entire package is classified secret or top secret. but individual discreet snip ets within that packet can be unclassified. to me that headline seems unclassified. if they wanted this call secret, if they wanted the call between donald trump and vladimir putin to never see the light of day. that's not the case. the kremlin, as it always does, went to the press immediately. donald trump later clogloated t the white house press he had this conversation with putin. so they're not trying to keep the call scootecret. so there seems nothing secret to me in the headline of that note card. >> let'...

But were you making the point -- did i hear you make the point that there can be material within those files that is not classified? especially if it's a separate card that says do not congratulate. and since that's not classified material, that would not be a violation? >> it's a little bit complicated. you have a briefing package for the president and that package, the entire package is classified secret or top secret. but individual discreet snip ets within that packet can be unclassified. to me that headline seems unclassified. if they wanted this call secret, if they wanted the call betwe...