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Both sides of this street in a very disingenuous way. >> so even if the president did call whitaker and talked about the cohen case, if no action was actually taken by whitaker, is there any issue in terms of legality of it. >> there is very definitely an issue. if the president called the acting attorney general of the united states about an ongoing investigation of him in the southern district of new york, where he was named as a an unindicted co-conspirator, any conversation would be wildly improper. and evidence of potential obstruction of justice. even if nothing came of it in terms of wh...

There is a lot of smoke here. which indicates fire. more questions than answers. and very likely there needs to be a release of this transcript, but also more testimony to establish exactly what whitaker is saying. because he seemingly is playing both sides of this street in a very disingenuous way. >> so even if the president did call whitaker and talked about the cohen case, if no action was actually taken by whitaker, is there any issue in terms of legality of it? >> there is very definitely an issue. if the president called the acting attorney general of the united states about an ongoing ...

Investigation or any criminal investigations, schumer wrote. this is interesting. we hadn't thought about this, ken, but the acting attorney general -- you guys have all thought about this. the acting attorney general is in charge of this investigation. he can take its report and shelf it, put it away and not show it to anyone. but as acting attorney general, he probably has access to information that the white house would be very interested in having. >> that's right, ali. i think that is a very important concernment even more important than chuck schumer caring about it because he's in the m...

Department inspector general investigate communications between acting attorney general matthew whitaker and the white house. quote, i am particularly concerned about whether mr. whitaker may have shared with the white house or could share in his new role confidential grand jury or investigative information from the special counsel investigation or any criminal investigations, schumer wrote. this is interesting. we hadn't thought about this, ken, but the acting attorney general -- you guys have all thought about this. the acting attorney general is in charge of this investigation. he can take ...