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>> was there sufficient evidence to convict president trump or anyone else with obstruction of justice? >> we did not make that calculation. >> how could you not have made the calculation -- >> because the olc opinion, office of legal counsel, indicates that we cannot indict a sitting president. >> could you charge the president with a crime after he left office? >> yes. >> you believe that he committed -- you could charge the president of the united states with obstruction of justice after he left office? >> yes. >> mueller continued his testimony before the intelligence committee, where the ...

We'll put it on the screen. he's been a frequent guest on this show. let's call him a lapsed republican. "schiff's five minutes and mueller's answers would have been enough for republicans to impeach and convict any other president before sundown today." and indeed 12 minutes prior to him tweeting that here is a bit of the schiff-mueller exchange. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> during the course of this russian interference in the election the russians made outreach to the trump campaign, did they not? >> that occurred over the course of -- yeah. that occurred. >> in fact, the campa...

House counsel fame, remains at the top of the democrats' witness list. mcgahn sat with mueller, you'll remember, 30-plus hours. his name is mentioned 500-plus times in the report. most notably in this detail, volume 2, june of 2017. "the president called mcgahn, directed him to have the special counsel removed. so there's that. democrats say that's proof of attempt obstruction of justice. white house instructed mccann -- mcgahn, rather. i sound like that member of congress today who could not get his name right. mcgahn to defy a judiciary committee subpoena, an issue the courts will ultimately...

If you're watching this show right now, you almost certainly know more about the russia investigation than the man who led the russia investigation. >> the only thing its his purview was framing president trump. that was it. >> the witch hunt is dead, gone, it is buried. >> it clearly wasn't the mueller report, it's just a name. i had more to do with the mueller report than probably he did. >> sample reaction to robert mueller's testimony from the president's favorite news network. still with us, phil rucker, john heilemann. just, you saw tucker carlsson talking about fusion gps. i asked one o...

>> see what you're saying about you. >> if you want the world to understand the truth that you spent two years uncovering, and that's what you want, you want people to want justice to be done, you got to understand what the modern media environment is in which that truth, that truths can be conveyed and justice can be sought. his pre-modernness, i think, worked against him in some sense, in the larger sense. >> phil rucker, the president tonight tweeted out video clips, like a video clipping service, there was congressman mccarthy in the house saying, on cue, there was no collusion, president ...