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because the court of appeals heard a major concession, see what i did there, from the lawyer from a former president who has refused to concede that he lost the election, and he did lose that election. before today trump's lawyers were absolutely, what's the word, adamant, totally convinced that the president has absolute immunity from trump's conduct while of course he was in office. they wouldn't even budge on this point. well, first they wouldn't budge. right out of the gate with question from one of the judges in the federal court, they were forced to make a powerful concession, ...

Immunity i think. >> i like your example in terms of law enforcement, you are right to point out when most of the conversations have been a ban immunity for someone who is a law enforcement official, or a member of the executive branch, which is what long for smith falls. you talk about qualified immunity, there we recognize times official action never be prosecuted. then there are times with someone who has gone broke, and trying to decipher when it is official when it is not at the crux of this issue is this something that you think is clear to the courts, or what the rules are interned of w...

Other investigations that are ongoing, so is the mueller report going to be the end all be all of this legal saga? or do you see mueller's final report as just the end of the beginning? >> absolutely i think it is the end of the beginning. this is the end of the investigation that was launched around president trump and his campaign behavior. what we've seen since is this spiraling sense of information around the inauguration, the transition, the behavior in the white house, the back business work of the trump organization itself. i counted it up in december. there were 17 active investigation...

By russia and other foreign nations to interfere. china is cited as well. so not a small problem. >> yeah. >> certainly did not dims appear in 2016. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. mark, thanks to you. i want to give credit to your colleagues' bylines and for your strong reporting in "the new york times." more on breaking news right now. democratic congressman ted lew is joining us. thank you for joining us, congressman. >> thank you, wolf. >> what is your reaction to the new report from "the new york times"? >> i have two indiscernible reactions. the first is that a senior trump campaign ...

Court documents that do establish from the day robert mueller started, this is essentially when james comey ended when he was fired to looking into possible crime or crimes involving collusion. >> right, and at a minimum, we know there is actually a robust investigation into collusion. i think people were wondering if this would just be an injustice investigation and whether they would find anything on collusion. and like you said, it hasn't been proven president trump knew of any of these interactions, for instance, between rick gates and paul manafort and this russian operative kolumnik. but...