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That's about the only thing that makes sense as far as i'm concerned. >> last week was interesting. senate and house democrats hammered sessions for previously telling congress under oath that no trump campaign associates communicated with russian operatives or intermediaries. some democrats accused him of deliberately lying to lawmakers and sessions denies and said he didn't remember because of the chaos of the campaign. does sessions face possible charges next? >> you know, it's difficult to say. we don't know anything like that. we don't have any indications that this investigation is going...

Sought and was promised thousands of e-mails with dirt on hillary clinton. fact, it represents the clearest cut connection to the administration. fact, george papadopoulos was a member of the trump campaign, a foreign policy adviser and a team headed by jeff sessions. here he is, see him at the table, sessions on one end, trump, then candidate, at national security meeting on the other. what are we hearing from the white house now? thi! this. >> it was extremely limited, volunteer position and no activity was ever done in official capacity on behalf of the campaign in that regard. >> volunteer...

American citizens. the standard is really high. i have a degree of confidence in that. once you get to 2016, i don't think those judges in my experience, would care about a campaign context -- >> or presidential candidate? that a presidential candidate could be indirectly -- >> but at least the law enforcement folks were doing it, have an absolute obligation to minimize those conversations. and so if he was on the phone talking to donald trump about campaign strategy, they've got to turn it off. >> let me ask you this, though. you -- this was jeremy bash who said you have to ask the question a...

Out of the white house. you raise the point, what if it comes to a moment where they really need to believe their president? it's a valid question, his supporters will say look, he wasn't a trust worthy character when he got elected. he'll continue to govern this way. this is not in the campaign context. this is in a governing context now where presidents rely on that trust with the american people where they have to convey information in a time of crisis. >> this is where the rubber meets the road. when you look at that, you have half of republicans they don't believe anything coming from the...

You raised the point, what if it comes to a moment where they really need to believe their president? it's a valid question. his supporters will say look, he wasn't a trustworthy character when he got elected, and he's there now, so we can continue to govern this way. this is not in a campaign context. this is in a governing context now where presidents rely on that trust with the american people when they have to convey information in a time of crisis. >> this is where the rubber meets the road. come on, scott. when you look at that, you have almost half of all republicans. they don't believe...