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A possibility. >> let me ask but the whole idea of the big lie. he put out a statement today, the campaign put out a statement again reaffirming what trump has been saying. he believes still that the 2020 election was stolen. whether or not that is true, how critical is that in terms of jack smith's case? is there an argument to be made even if trump felt like he won the election? the fact that multiple court cases, dozens of court cases wednesday against him? that no proof was ever found. that multiple people in his circle, including top lawyers said to him, there is nothing to show that this...

If they figure if they can weaken the number 2 challenger and make it an open race, you're off to the races what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's interesting. before governor desantis got in last week probably hours before actually or a day before, we saw nikki haley's campaign put out a memo tying desantis to trump and saying she's a newer, fresher option. she would bring a new face to the republican primary field. we've seen tim scott also try to differentate himself very much as this happy warrior, something that we're not really seeing as much from president trump or governor desantis. i...

Administration directly over migration. but will he be able to stop the rise of donald trump? according to new cnn polling, the governor has his work cut out for him. he is trailing behind trump, and more than half among republicans and republican leader voters. trump is at 53%. desantis? he's at 26%. and we should note that the survey -- it was taken before he announced, and also before it senator tim scott announced as well. david chalian will join us in a moment -- our panel, molly ball, who recently wrote a times cover story on desantis. she's a national political correspondent for the mag...

Support u.s. support of ukraine. i think that was a classic donald trump we shouldn't discuss it now. because he doesn't want to discuss it now. because he, eighth, does not have a solution. and b, he really doesn't want to say anything negative about putin. in a certain way, it was not unlike his abortion answer, which was something to the effect of i want to negotiate to make everyone happy. >> right, a good thing. >> to me, the trump campaign put out a statement saying that donald trump laid out his vision to reserves the biden decline started on day one. i really can't think of a whole lot...

Americans support u.s. support of ukraine. i think that was a classic donald trump. we shouldn't discuss it now. he doesn't want to discuss it now. because he does not have a solution and b, he doesn't want to say anything negative about putin. in a certain way, it was not unlike his abortion answer, chfrs something to the effect of, i want to negotiate to make everyone happy. >> right. >> like the trump campaign put out a statement saying, krdonal trump reversed the biden transition. i can't think of a whole lot he laid out. >> drill baby drill. that was it. >> drill baby drill. he said that ...