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Government shutdown threat, that's a threat that president trump has made repeatedly and is making now privately, that if he does not get the funding that he wants for the border wall that he promised in the campaign, to construct that border wall, he would threaten to shut down the government. it's one of the reasons why the president has been so -- has been demanding that congress pass a larger, more comprehensive immigration bill that doesn't just fix the family separation policy but also includes funding for the border wall. he cares about that wall. in terms of where we're headed next, br...

Republican senate nomination, with the primary just three weeks away. romney appears to be shedding the die-hard never trump posture we saw in 2016, playing it down the middle. my colleague garrett haake joins me from salt lake city. it's not exactly fair to say romney is now shedding the never trump coat. the two of them were here in new york city sharing frogs legs. >> yes, that's right. for romney, he has to walk a middle ground here with president trump. it's fascinating to watch him do it in a campaign setting. utah is a state where the president did not win in the primary but did win ove...

Underlying problem there. no matter how you look at it, reimbursed, wasn't reimbursed, it's a real reach to say this is in-kind contribution in a campaign setting. this is new legal ground. the only other real test case for this theory, it failed in 2011. >> harris: interesting. >> so whoever it turns out paid for this or reimbursed this payment, it really doesn't go to campaign finance violations under a traditional reading of the law. it underlines how far afield this investigation has gotten. >> harris: so, james, following that logic and those facts, then maybe rudy giuliani knew exactly w...

Looking forward. there's a lot of investigative reporting, but for an industry that thriving on investigation, we're not very good at self-reflection at all, and i think we do knee some of that most mortem, especially with they post-election factors. >> this comes through the book well, in a campaign setting, everything is zero sum. if something is hurting one candidati helps the other necessarily. when someone puts a thumb on the scale, like the russians did, it's hard to say we're making this independent news judgment. >> one of my colleagues wrote about a column about the french elections a...

Are debating it. do you think there's a -- i feel like sometimes that the people in the press and the campaign press of 2016 have a rae defensiveness when they get criticized for their coverage of 2016. >> completely. yeah. >> what is that about? >> i think -- >> it's really intense -- i have a television show. of course there are things that we screwed up. we made wrong judgment calls. i'm proud of our coverage generally, but yeah, you screw stuff up. >> i get the instinct to focus looking forward. there's a lot of investigative reporting, but for an industry that thriving on investigation,...