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Right! [ applause ] but the president had an alternative to drilling this is why debating him would be one of those moments where you could almost sell tickets for charity. [ laughter ] the president said -- >> algae, i mean i think this summer as gas prices keep going up, one of our campaign techniques should have people go to gas stations with a jar of algae, and say to people, would you rather have the gingrich solution of drilling and having more oil or would you like to try to put this in your gas

Lauer. the president confrontedconfron him, he confronted obama and complained about a passage that preferred to him in the president's book "audacity of hope." he quoted a variety of conservatives saying we're a conservative nation. he confronted obama. the president, then senator, would not apologize. that's one the little moments we see in here. another little bit of tension we see with the current white house is he plays back how the president used to complain about rovian tactics and talk about ending the era of rove. but then in the book, karl goes on to take credit for some of the obama...

Republican and u.s. politics to be able to be go and market those connections around the world. he had done an amazing job of that really pioneered a particular type of foreign lobbying where u.s. consultants went around the world and worked for some of these unsavory characters both helping them with their own campaigns introducing american campaign techniques, but also helping them with their connections in wash to try to buff their images. that is the type of work that he is now being prosecuted for his work on behalf of the ukrainian strong man president yanukovych who manafort essentially...

Solve it. and then he offered his practical solution. does anybody here remember what it was? algae. [laughter] algae. i mean, i think this summer as gas prices keep going up one of our campaign techniques should be have people go to gas stations with a jar of algae. [laughter] and say to people would you rather have the gingrich solution of drilling and having more oil, or would you like to try to put this in your gas tank? [laughter] megyn: matt mccall is president of penn financial group and chris stirewalt is host of power play on foxnews.com. let me start with you on what we saw last nigh...