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About, the accuser is not part of, that's -- that is a flawed justice system. >> look, i'm not going to go into the details of what happened in that one, because i wasn't the attorney. but i've handled -- we've handled probably as many of these campus cases as anybody in the country, and we are not finding that a lot of universities, not all of them, but a lot of the universities, the procedures are unfair. at this point in time to males. so i don't agree with you, that it was a flaw. this was one of the best procedures that we had ever seen. >> do you think it's fair to the accuser not to hav...

Probably as many of these campus cases as anyone in the country. we are not finding that a lot of united states, not all of them, that a lot of universities, apiles at this point in time to males. i don't agree with you that it was flawed. this is one of the best procedures we had ever seen. >> do you think it's fair to the accuser not to have her be a part of it? an appeal? >> neither of them -- neither of them are a part of it. they don't go up there and talk to the professors when they're coming to a decision. neither of them. he might have known it was happening. and i assume she knew and ...