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For women, particularly young women, you and i have talked about issues of sexual assault, campus rape, what women have gone through, everyone has had that encounter with an aggressive man? what do you think is the difference with this particular tape and you'll the previous things that donald trump has said about women? >> i think there's something really powerful when it's not a reported a.p. piece where they are quoting other people talking about what they heard donald trump say. we are hearing it from him, and we see him essentially come off the bus and we know it's him, and i think confir...

Let authorities know. for that we will need a lawyer, obviously. got to talk to the lawyer about that. >> we love lawyers. lawyer right next to me on the right-hand side. i'm going to roll over. let's talk about this, the legality involved with any of this. obviously "rolling stone" faced uphill issues with some of their reporting. we know what they had issues with before with one of their story lines about rape, campus rape. but this is completely agreement. as cal points out, the agreement that they made to give him editorial rights over what he was going to print, but is penn ever going to ...

Out more because she is being gained on by bernie sanders. the more she goes out, her numbers go down, so they are in a pickle. >> all right. you know joe biden? do you know him at all? >> i have had a chance to meet him a couple times, i don't know him well. >> no? he is kind of a nice guy. >> nice, yeah. >> everybody says that even if you don't agree with his politics. >> he is great because he will say things like why don't you come over to our side. i you love you. he is fun you will get higher ratings without me. >> maybe not next month when he announces. >> that's what you are saying, ri...

Being gained on by bernie sanders. the more she goes out, her numbers go down, so they are in a pickle. >> all right. you know joe biden? do you know him at all? >> i have had a chance to meet him a couple times, i don't know him well. >> no? he is kind of a nice guy. >> nice, yeah. >> everybody says that even if you don't agree with his politics. >> he is great because he will say things like why don't you come over to our side. i you love you. he is fun you will get higher ratings without me. >> maybe not next month when he announces. >> that's what you are saying, right? he is going to anno...

Gillibrand has not updated her remarks. >> another key part of the pattern is most of the people who promote the false or likely false story never go back and say sorry, i got it wrong. and not only did senator gillibrand promote this woman and promote the story, she's sponsoring legislation to double down on this hysteria on college campuses. we've been sold this story that one out of five women are rape on college campuses. when the best evidence suggests it's more like 6 per 1,000. still one is one too many. but women are safer on college campuses than they are off college campuses. and oef...