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The midterms. trump insisting russia may not be behind the 2016 hacks. bloomberg cites an example, cane c -- john mccain who was on twitter and within hours there was a coordinated counter attack pro-russian cyborbg with accusations that it was mccaine allied with neo-nazis in the past. that's michael daniel. he's barack obama former cyber chief and a great guest. we go do you first. thanks for being here. >> thanks. what did you find here and what is the link back to russia? >> i spoke to a lot of

Heard from nbc news is correct, he was taking notes. that's really interesting because the conversation was supposedly about adopting orphans from russia according to trump junior. what that goes back to is how foolish trump junior was to go and make public statements on his own, in his own voice on the hannity show and elsewhere. now he's got statements that will be used against him if he's ever on the witness stand. >> malcolm, paul manafort was up to all this in these meetings, aware of these contacts and then was out defending against them as a campaign leader, chair, spokesperson and now ...

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