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He cannot be charged. they're running around the back side saying this is there, this may have happened. here's our legal footing, we think, which is not a sounds one. >> they're always moving the line, you know, three, four months earlier, they said this isn't obstruction of justice because there is not an investigation. right? that's before they knew what was going on, that was the argument. now there the an investigation and now they have clearly obstructed justice, now the argument is the president cannot obstruct justice, it is for any law here in this case it's the last renew jersey of t...

Telling "the new yorker's" jeffrey toobin tonight that even if there had been collusion between the trump campaign and russia that's not illegal, so it's okay. another lawyer for the president, john dowd, who represents the president on russia matters making a much more sweeping case to axios.com today telling them the president is the chief law enforcement officer in the country and therefore by definition he cannot obstruct justice. there are a lot of people who have a contrary opinion on that, obviously. the question is whether or not this is some sort of signal that this is where the presi...

B, the president cannot obstruct justice because he's the president. are either of those reasonable claims in your -- to your mind? >> well, the first, collusion is not a crime is not a reasonable claim. the second that the president is immune from prosecution is wrong but some have argued it's not settled but certainly the first is a fantasy. there certainly is a statute that prohibits an american political campaign from essentially establishing a political alliance with a foreign government to win a presidential election and suggestion that's not a crime is simply flatly wrong. in the second...

Made yesterday that he doesn't believe, it's his assessment that the president cannot obstruct justice on his reading of the constitution, which many legal sclholars and experts disagree with. >> i want to ask you about something i picked up from these senior republicans. they suggested that once someone like mike flynn has flipped and has joined team america as the source put it, it is unknowable what bob mueller knows. so he may only know what mike flynn knows, but he may also know more than the white house sort of can imagine. that this becomes sort of an investigation that is impossible to...

You don't get to say that. because i was there, and the last sh mon14 months of my life been dealing with it. you dealt with it for 14 minutes and went on to be the president. he last week came out with that's not my voice on the tape. you can't say that. that is your voice. i was there. you were there. that's your voice on the tape. >> that was billy bush talking to stephen colbert last night. this morning there was bomb shell reporting to mike pence's reaction to the tape including that he was contemplating a coupe to replace donald trump. that's a nugget in a wide ranging piece on the vice ...