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Differently on the stage tonight if donald trump had been on it with you? >> i don't believe i would, and i think it was a missed opportunity for him not to be there. my bet is he might be at the next one. >> with vivek getting so much attention, with people talking less about, nobody seemed to care about what he was doing on streaming. he was talking more about formerly alive people, right. will trump reconsider taking part in the next debate? >> i don't think so. there's no reason for trump to participate in this. this did look like an under card debate. i don't think you're going to see any...

Any significance for anyone else because they become this attack fest which can be quite elevating to a candidate, that the others are focussing on them. >> i remember mitt romney survive that time after time after time. noah, but at the same time, the way these stages are going to be set, we're going to have two nights, kind of at random, there are rules that will put the front runners on the same stage but elizabeth warren may not get to stand next to joe biden. >> i think that would be a disservice to voters because they have a series of preferences, demonstrated in opinion polling -- >> yo...

Debates, they held a main debate and an under card so it was like the adult main candidates in prime time, the adults table but before that not in prime time a kids' table for candidates maybe not impressive enough by one measure or another to make it into the main event. this was a very awkward division from the very beginning. literally from the first one the network is showing the under card debate, they panned out wide to show this image of this room in which the under card kids' table candidate was about to start debate income front of no one. for the first debate, they didn't invite an a...

Debates, they held a main daebae and then they held what they called an undercard. so it was like the adult main candidates in prime time, the adults' table, but before that not in prime time they'd have a kids' table for candidates who are maybe not impressive enough by one measure or another to make it into the main event. that was a very awkward division from the very beginning. literally from the first one the network showing the under card debate they panned out wide to show this image of this huge and cavernous completely empty room in which the kids' table candidates were about to start...

Rick santorum in the under card debate. rand paul says no. >> reporter: he says no, declining the invitation to be on what he described as the second tier. some folks call it the under card. as far as rand paul is concerned, he is neither. he considered himself a top tier candidate. he is not going to be there. rand paul is sort of taking a stand here. other candidates have made the point they will debate anywhere, any place, any time and appreciate the attention. rand paul is arguing this is unfair, the polling criteria is not the way to decide who is best suited to be commander in chief. the...