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Used to run the democratic party and has a little different view on this i want, steve, if possible, if you can bring us back to the problem rorschach, the people map. which is one way for us to see especially in 2020 things turned more blue. take it away for your perspective, former democratic party care dean. >> well, the central problem. there are several central problems. the biggest problem of all is that the counties, and the states that michael talked about and steve talked about are older, getting older and whiter and they're terrified of the future. the kids are leaving. they're teach...

Opioid money, why there is no bridges, why there is no infrastructure if he doesn't vote for this. he's going to find a way. the problem is that's not good enough because you got to get sinema. she is the sphinx of all this. nobody is figuring out what is making her tick. i have already predicted he is not coming back. that's not until 2024. you know, she really holds the key. manchin gets the inink. that's what this is about. i don't understand what sinema is doing and why she's in the senate. >> does he get ink, governor, or the pixels? >> who, manchin? he likes the pixels and the ink. i gue...