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Live from washington, im paula reid in for jim acosta. You are in the cnn newsroom. Former President Trump is pushing back on the new criminal charges hes facing. The former president took to social media today to deny that Security Footage from maralago was deleted, but thats not what prosecutors have accused here. They allege that he was part of an attempt to delete the footage. Prosecutors say a maralago property manager, Carlos De Oliveira, urged another employee to scrub the footage, saying that, quote, the boss, aka trump, wanted the entire server deleted. De oliveira is accused of lying to investigators about moving classified documents at the resort, and the indictment alleges that the desire to have this footage deleted was all aimed at trying to conceal critical information from investigators. De oliveir ....
So many of them, you know, just use that phrase. so they would have to actually make the connection that he actually communicated that to carlos. so i don t think that they re going to be able to sustain their burden as to others, even if they do have that employee come in and say, yes, you know, carlos said this to me. this is the obstruction of the obstruction, right? so we have a lot of obstruction alleged here. what is your assessment of the overall obstruction case here? the video that we re talking about here, the surveillance video is something that when the subpoena came in, you know, we advised, you know, turn it over. and, you know, it was turned over, and it was something that was kind of surprising to us at the time of why were they even looking at this because the deletion of footage, doj had all the footage. so they knew that there was nothing missing. but it really then is going to be a question of what is on that footage. you know, the same thing i told you when the ....
After these alleged efforts to get him to delete the server, and then there s a description of a signal chat a text chat between some employees and walt nauta assessing carlos de olive trump. and, quote, that same day, trump called de oliveira and told him that he would get him an attorney. that looks like a litmus test. you re loyal, you get an attorney. is there a litmus test for getting an attorney through the pac? not that i ve seen. certainly not, and i ve seen some people that they ve paid for attorneys for you know, we ve kind of questioned it. but quite the opposite of like, you know, that person isn t really that friendly. but it s whether they pay for the attorneys or not, it doesn t really necessarily change things. you know, and one of the things you have to remember, special counsel yes, of course they re focusing on this. ....
Came down is what is it actually going to show of, you know, carlos and walt actually moving these boxes? it s something that now, i m surprised that they haven t played clips of it yet. i m surprised they haven t put screen shots of it into the indictment. they have pictures of boxes on stage and boxes in bathrooms, but the single most damaging thing in this indictment, the most, you know, criminal thing that it appears, they didn t put the screen shots of that in. do you think a screen shot of walt nauta and carlos de oliveira moving boxes would hit harder than those pictures of alleged classified documents in a bathroom, in a ballroom? sure. if they moved 60 boxes out like it s saying and they can show, you know, video or a screen shot of them moving 60 boxes out right before evan corcoran goes in to do a search, that s an ....
But tavares went a different way. how big a problem is this for trump? is this a possible break in the dam? well, it is somebody who, you know, it s the first person that we ve heard of that has come in to give eyewitness testimony that s directly contradictory to donald trump s story. now, that being said, he s also not able to point the finger directly at donald trump. you know, he s pointing the finger at carlos and saying carlos said this. but that s not something that can even really be used to show that donald trump said it. so it is, you know, the first instance of a so-called cooperating witness that we ve seen in this case. i want to move on to another part of the superseding indictment. that is the fact that they added another document, another charge of willful retention. this document is significant because this is the one that is allegedly mentioned in that recording. what is your reaction to the fact that this has been added now in a superseding indictment? it s sim ....