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Unconstitutional. so the stay put into effect by judge robart, the george w. bush pointee in seattle is still in effect. the other point to make about tonight's ruling it is unanimous among the three judges, the carter appointee, the obama appointee, and the george w. bush appointee, so there is no political division among the three judges. this case is not over. the legal proceedings will continue, and there are several possibilities of where we may go from here, including a request for an emergency stay of the stay in the united states supreme court. the trump administration now could go to ...

Outcome of the ninth circuit as a play of politics? >> remember, donald trump is not an attorney, so he's not an officer of the court. he's entitled to express his opinion about whether he thinks judges are impartial or doing their job or properly looking at the issue from all sides. and whether that's actually a good strategy is, of course, another matter. as someone like myself being an officer of the court, criticizing the objectivity of judges is not a good litigation strategy. nevertheless, you have to take a look at the fact that the judges spent a lot of time on the procedural matters o...

Administration, and david urban, former trump campaign strategist. to the lawyers first. what did you hear, jeffrey? >> let me preface this saying i am the world's foremost authority on being wrong based on just listening to oral argument. you cannot pretend that oral argument is exactly what you will get in the decision. but you seem to have two judges on opposite sides. judge friedland seemed -- -- and judge clifton seemed more sympathetic to the trump administration, the republican appointee from hawaii. judge camby, the 85-year-old carter appointee, walter mondale's brother-in-law, he seem...