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Countries like greece and slovenia. it's kind of amazing when you think about it. we're wealthier, but we have the biggest hunger crisis and it's wonderful that we talk about it at this time of year, but we should be talking about it in february when the budget cuts are proposed. we should be talking about it in summertime who those kids who rely on a school meal get nothing. we should be talking about it all year and because we talk about it in the public's mind as a charitable issue. >> instead of an ongoing, social issue. >> instead of it as a charitable context and a great nation shouldn't...

The food company hickory farms is matching up to the first $50,000 donated. it is a great way to raise money for a solvable problem. even if you don't have a passion for the poor, if you care about educations, schools, jobs, about our competitiveness as a nation, we have to solve this hunger problem. we can't have a strong america with kids who are not strong. >> it has a cascade effect indeed. thank you gentleman for your time and the work you're doing. >> thank you. in the spirit of giving tuesday, we want the to highlight a program we saw firsthand in eastern kentucky. tomorrow we will te...

Activists has a cascade effect in terms of -- >> absolutely. as sam just said, we need to go out there and tell people, it's our speedometresponsibility to the vote. and we need to go out there on off year elections for comprehensive immigration reform, for, you know, raising the minimum wage. >> here's a perfect example. comprehensive immigration reform is the perfect example, okay? here's what's going to happen. and i've seen this from activists on the immigration front, who i respect enormously. who have been so kickass and amazing. but i see them saying they were frustrated, we've had brok...

This sort of bank shot theory about how demoralization of activists has a cascade effect in terms of -- >> absolutely. as sam just said, we need to go out there and tell people, it's our responsibility to turn out the vote. and we need to go out there on off year elections for comprehensive immigration reform, for, you know, raising the minimum wage. >> here's a perfect example. comprehensive immigration reform is the perfect example, okay? here's what's going to happen. and i've seen this from activists on the immigration front, who i respect enormously. who have been so kickass and amazing. ...

We don't really care about the debt ceiling. let's focus on the continuing resolution and fight that battle. that might convince them. then i have this vision of john boehner in three months' time saying, you got your clean debt limit increase three months ago, now it's time to pay up. i can see this going one of two ways. i just don't know which way it's going to go. >> justin, before we let you go, business. do you think there are -- this is sort of a cascade effect? that in the future in the midterms and presidential elections, the business community will say, you can't behave like that, we...