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is not that receptive to diversity right now. >> so, is there already a dog whistle about nikki haley happening? . >> it's certainly there. some of the lower tier candidates like vivek ramaswamy have made a point of calling her her birth name. but nikki haley is also one of, versification's gone by in her whole life. but just to remind people that she's not quite like you. a dog whistle is not a bullhorn, but yes coming from an indian man himself. but what's also interesting is this. donald trump was president for four years. there were some what i would call republican victories on the immigration front, but he did not secure the border. which he laid out tonight was a comprehensive plan to actually secure the border, deal with labor shortages in the country, deal with the culture community that doesn't need labor to come in, and she was talking about solutions not just simply the hashtag slogan-ism of build the wall, which donald trump did not do. it's actually a very effective policy position. >> it's interesting that this is been the kind of hill that
the immigration front, we know that three key senate negotiators, murphy, lankford and sinema met yesterday in person. they have been quiet about the details, but generally we know the parameters of the conversations. they have agreed to raise the standard for asylum seekers to come to the u.s., still stuck on the parameters of things like expulsion authority, deportations from the interior and how much discretion to give the president on these enforcement matters. one person within the room with them yesterday was homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas who is there to offer technical advice. he sounded optimistic this is headed toward a good place. let's play what he said on "morning joe." >> these are earnest, hard working efforts to tackle a very complicated problem. we have been making progress each and every day. and despite how difficult it is, that progress is ongoing and i
about the woke stuff because i don't know what it means. most people don't know what it means." again, it is used for absolutely everything. again, i know a lot of republicans just don't want to be obsessing over a lot of these issues. they're more concerned, again, about taxes, about crime, about immigration. they see the images coming out of new york and the immigration crisis. they hear eric adams and other democratic mayors talking about how things are so out of control on the immigration front. those are issues, actually, where ron desantis could connect more with voters if you wanted to talk. again, it's wokeness, wokeness, wokeness. you have "the wall street journal" again, in this case, going after ron desantis. "the times" talking about it this morning, saying, basically, ron desantis is against more free trade. he is against immigration.
cooperation if you're republicans and democrats, as he saw last congress because you had a bit of a reaction from some of the more mainstream republicans in the senate to the dysfunction in the house. >> so, let's talk about bipartisanship, you are part of a bipartisan delegation. there's a whole bunch of development on the immigration front, i run for. there are several court cases that go in opposite directions over the title 42 public health emergency has been declared by the trump administration, but there are new announcements by the biden administration on limits to the procedures of seeking asylum from certain countries, caps on the number of asylum seekers and requirements of moving third-party countries, right? not at the u.s. border to apply, something she saw in the trump administration, and many advocates and democratic lawmakers said that this is trumpism under a different banner. what do you say to >> that is not true, and i don't think it's fair to what president
representatives. it's that there are a handful of senate republicans that don't like what is going on, don't like the fact that their party is being branded as this badly dysfunctional and in the senate, i think you will see just as much bipartisan cooperation if you're republicans and democrats, as he saw last congress because you had a bit of a reaction from some of the more mainstream republicans in the senate to the dysfunction in the house. >> so, let's talk about bipartisanship, you are part of a bipartisan delegation. there's a whole bunch of development on the immigration front, i run for. there are several court cases that go in opposite directions over the title 42 public health emergency has been declared by the trump administration, but there are new announcements by the biden administration on limits to the procedures of seeking asylum from certain countries, caps on the number of asylum seekers and requirements of moving third-party countries, right? not at the u.s. border to apply, something she saw in the trump administration, and many advocates and democratic lawmakers said that this is trumpism under a different
some changes to the asylum laws, we need more border enforcement, we need more immigration judges. we need to fix the delays that are causing people to think that they can get in and stay here while they're working through the system for a year or two. paul: yeah. kim, what's striking to me, the president at several points attacked republicans, said they're responsible for not solving this problem. but you and i have watched this for a long time, and it takes two to mess up this tango. and democrats don't want to deal because a lot of them really do not want my controls on the border. >> right. i mean, and, look, this is a president who actually has spent past two years doing everything humanly possible to poison the well in the senate and the house to get something done by allowing not -- by basically allowing this border chaos because all that has done is put republicans on their guard. there are now more free and more demanding they need and want some sort of border security before they're willing to play ball on an immigration front in
2024. what i have heard is they are open minded about that. many of the supporters in my district are attracted to governor desantis. governor hutchinson has supporters. we have talented republicans to run for the 2024 presidential election and i think that process is well underway as we turn the new year. >> would you like to see one of those -- >> i think both parties ought to not renominate donald trump and joe biden. it would be good for the country for a new direction and we have a talented republican bench. >> i also want to circle back. we are stick lers for facts. on the immigration front in july the biden administration did allow funds to close the border wall in arizona, parts.
those three things are quite daunting for both parties, and they all have to get done in the next couple weeks here. >> and geoff, democrats have to get legal status for dreamers, immigration reform. with so much to do, what is the likelihood anything gets done. >> democratic staffers on the immigration front have actually been looking at some border security bills to find common ground with republicans, potentially, to get to that 60-vote threshold so they could do something on daca to enshrine those protections for young people who were brought here as children. but jose, as you well know, daca was unveiled in 2012. joe biden, president joe biden was vice president back then. he has spoken in support of daca repeatedly, but in the first two years of his administration, the white house has done what they can to shore up the policy, but it really needs congressional action. in the last ten years many of
what a second, not everything you say is progress is automatically progress. maybe others got some things right, and we should preserve those things -- i was always more sympathetic to nostalgia in the pass, but i gotta say, in the last 6 or 8 years, when it has been weaponized away it has and turned into bitter hostility to change immigrants, minority groups, a refusal to convey something. the 50s, it was a lot of implicit -- in that respect, i think i was too nice to nostalgia. what we see in america today is this sort of downside of the politicization almost weaponization of a kind of nostalgia. >> i am not saying it's right or wrong. i am just saying, doesn't explain how some people are voting for these candidates, who are promising to stop progress, at least a progress certainly on the immigration front? >> i don't think it is as innocent as just nostalgia wanting to harken back to a
preserve them. i've got to say in the last six or eight years when it's been weaponized the way it has and turned into a bitter hostility to change, to immigrants, to minority groups, a refusal to face-up to any of the problems in the past -- the '50s there was kind of a lot of unpleasant stuff happening in the '50s and '60s and to that respect i think i was too nice to nostalgia. >> yeah, and i'm not saying it's right or wrong, i'm just saying doesn't that explain how some people are voting for these candidates who are promising to stop progress -- at least stop progress certainly on the immigration front. >> i don't think it's as innocent as just nostalgia wanting to harken back to the time of school shootings and when your kids could ride their bikes after dark. i think this is people who want it go back to a time where they had a little more power because the system was structured