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The time. sometimes you go to a regular court or criminal judge and ask for this. but when it comes to the fisa stuff it takes a lot to go there especially on a u.s. citizen where you really need a lot of. >> who has not been charged. >> in this case carter page -- it's not clear he is ever going to be charged. when we started this story remember we get o kept getting the distinction this is a counterintelligence investigation. these are the kinds of things that the fbi does in counterintelligence. >> there are no charges on carter panl in fairness to him we have to emphasize that. >> four peo...

Charge that it's happening illegally, you better present some evidence. >> that's why this is never supposed to be so public, right. the fbi, this is their concern. they value the work they do on fisa and the courts, fisa courts and they treat it with extreme sensitivity, because the work that goes into this is so sensitive and so important in terms of the way they view it for national security, that we can't -- they cannot afford to expose anything that goes on in that court. there are people under surveillance in this country all the time. sometimes you go to a regular court or criminal judg...

Dossier are unverified and salacious. are there parts of the dossier that are true? >> that russia is a country and carter page is a person. >> you don't know anything corroborated? >> no, i don't know what the fbi agent was smoking that would think that carter page who hasn't had a job for many years, who is a russian sympathizer, that the russians who said he was an idiot in court testimony and this was presented before the court. russian agents said carter page was an idjot. do you think that the russian would offer him a 19% share of the major oil companies in russian. this is crazy. you w...

That's what happened. then they got a warrant on someone in the trump campaign using opposition research paid for by the democratic party and the hillary clinton campaign. that's what this is about. it's wrong. it should never be done. >> is it true that the fbi led the fisa application with the dossier? >> yes, the largest percentage of the entire application has to do with the dossier and then using the news story to corroborate the dossier. >> democrats insisted that the fisa court was told of the political nature of this information. take a listen. >> is there anything inappropriate about ...

Interpretation how he felt about the memo. >> it's a disgrace. people should be ashamed of themselves and much worse than that. >> reaction to the document came in like a flood. carter page the trump volunteer at the center of the fisa memo said the oversight by congressional leaders represents a giant historic leap in the repair of america's democracy. former fbi director james comey tweeted: in a conference call, adam schiff from the house intelligence committee ripped the memo as blatant politics.