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Rates. um, and i think we all hope that they are right. but -- but it is going to have -- we are going to have to wait and see until we get to march to know if that is right. as for now, i particularly, personally, will be wearing a mask indoors because i still don't want to catch a highly contagious disease even though i am vaccinated and protected from something serious. >> earlier today on cnn, jersey governor phil murphy was asked what factors he was looking at when making the decision to end school masking next month. here it is. >> a number of factors are case -- case count, hospitalizat...

Government out if vaccine mandates are not dropped. one, vaccine mandates in canada are federal and the senate is appointed and has no ability to kick out elected officials. >> thank you so much for joining us. a wild story up there in ottawa. appreciate all the reporting and your time. thank you. now on to new jersey where the governor announced plans to lift school mandates in the second week of march. students and school employees will no longer have to cover up in the classroom. >> we are not removing the ability of individual district leaders to maintain and enforce such a policy within...

Getting more children vaccinated will make schools safe. if we're going to remove one of the layers of safety let's make sure we get the other layers robustly in place. whether it be a 2% positivity rate, a 1%, i think it might depend on the scenario we're looking at. the rules for schools might not -- need to be stronger. adults in an office setting can be spaced and do fine perhaps without masks. i think it needs to be a case count and what's going on region by region. >> i think your point about vaccines are incredibly important here. vaccines are the core. >> or more young kids vaccinated....

100,000 people? >> so, cdc puts that at about seven cases per 100,000 people, 49 cases per week, so you can look on the cdc website. somewhere around there, 5 to 10, is where people would feel comfortable. right now nationally i think, brianna, we're at 35 cases per 100,000. so about a third of that i think would be pretty good for moderate. so we go from high to substantial to moderate. >> so let me -- i want to ask you a question, this is something i came across in my family, i have a relative who say teacher in california, and even ahead of this california recommendation they're making mask...

Indefinite remote learning. and jake, while we are seeing some states making this long-awaited move away from masks in schools, the white house has not changed its position. the administration does continue to encourage the use of masks in schools. they say that is the cdc recommendation. >> thank you. here to discuss, from new jersey, phil murphy. also the vice chair of the governor's association. so two years ago, your state and new york were the early epicenters of the virus and you imposed the most stringent mandates. today, cases have plummeted. on average, new jersey is seeing 3,000 case...