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Having less relevance in the white house today. >> well, i think it's rather rich of senator graham to complain about having to negotiate with someone who has different views. that's what negotiation is all about, and as far as immigration goes, lindsey graham's views are rather outside the mainstream, certainly within the republican party, so he can go about casting aspersions, calling names, doesn't bring us any closer to where i think he and steven miller want us to get to, which is some kind of arrangement that protects the rule of law, border security, and that offers something to those w...

From a decade ago for example. >> well, that's a possibility. and you know, the only person who really knows who it's going to be is robert mueller. because he's conducted an investigation where there have been few leaks. i heard the person before talking about leaks but it's very possible the leak came from the defense attorney and my view is we should not speculate. we should let bob mueller do his job. we should wait until his report comes out and we should in congress basically support the independence of this investigation and not allow for people to distract from the investigation by cas...

There are lots of studies that confirm it and the people that are trying to poison the discourse by casting aspersions and so on are just trying to get your attention. i think that you're playing into the coarsening of discourse by giving them the attention rather than focusing on the facts. >> pleasure to have you on. >> great to be on. next on "gps," the crisis in catalonia and the strengthening secessionist movements around the world. how should we think about that? is this a good trend? an important conversation when we come back. time to open the laptop... ...and compare medicare health...

Activity. it's obvious, very simple math. there are lots of studies that confirm it and the people that are trying to poison the discourse by casting aspersions and so on are just trying to get your attention. i think that you're playing into the korsoning of discourse by giving them the attention rather than focusing on the facts. >> pleasure to have you on. >> great to be on. next on gps, the crises in catalonia and the strengthening successionist movements around the world. how should we think about that? is this a good trend? an important conversation when we come back. psoriasis does th...

>> first of all, they didn't need jim clapper to get that intelligence work done. president trump has been impulsive, destructive, self-destructive. you know, and -- and he lacks coherence on so many different policy areas. and his own supporters thought he was temperamentally unfit for the office during the campaign and he's demonstrated this in the way he speaks, the way he goes after people, how personable he makes it. it's not presidential behavior. if you look at the scope of our history. and that doesn't even say anything about the complete failure of moral authority with regard to charl...