Beginning. >> it's interesting, david chalian, when we talk to people who feel unapologetic about this new policy, steve cortez we just had on "new day," he said he really likes this new policy. he likes the punitive nature of it. what they feel is, yes, parents should be punished for crossing the border illegally. that in itself is the original sin and if children are caught in the cross fire, hey, we're not doing it. it's those parents that made the decision and i think it's really important to have those voices on "new day" so that people can understand why the base might be so activated an...