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D.r.e.a.m.ers, are getting to become citizens before legal immigrants. what about the spouses, what about the parents who are waiting overseas, what about people who spent a year in refugee camps like someone profiled recently in "the new york times," rather than cheating, coming on a tourist visa and overstaying or crossing the border illegally. this country has rule of law. this country does not owe anything to the people who did this the wrong way and if anybody's civil rights are being violated, it's legal immigrants who tried to uphold the law. i don't think race has anything to do with i...

Fix a long-time terrible problem. two, to show democrats don't want to solve daca, only use it." the president characterizing this as a wonderful deal. i want to get your response to that. we that. >> well, of course it is. if democrats cared about the country and the d.r.e.a.m.ers they'd accept this deal with both hands. not only did he more than double the number of people receiving amnesty, but gave them a path to citizenship, whereas all we had been talking about before is some kind of legal status, maybe permanent residency, so he really came out way ahead of his base and offered somethin...

Help people elsewhere to improve their lives by coming here? and that is a difficult question to answer, which is, of course, why you're seeing so much stagnation and frustration and chafing on capitol hill. >> perry bacon, to you, when you look at folks saying they are not going to be in attendance to the speech, what does that say about the quality of discourse surrounding this issue in particular? how much of a log jam do you see on the issue of immigration as we approach a very real deadline here in a few weeks? >> in terms of immigration, what i see is i think the issues we've talked abou...

Having less relevance in the white house today. >> well, i think it's rather rich of senator graham to complain about having to negotiate with someone who has different views. that's what negotiation is all about, and as far as immigration goes, lindsey graham's views are rather outside the mainstream, certainly within the republican party, so he can go about casting aspersions, calling names, doesn't bring us any closer to where i think he and steven miller want us to get to, which is some kind of arrangement that protects the rule of law, border security, and that offers something to those w...

Invalidated the similar daca policy for adults to somehow be mandated nationwide by a single district court in san francisco. he goes on to explain this is taking the rare step to the supreme court even though a lower court is the one that said the renewal applications had to go forward. they're now escalating it to the supreme court, brooke. it's interesting, because that decision from that lower court in san francisco happened a while ago. we haven't seen any movement from the justice department so far. clearly, just as congress is ramping up its discussions with the white house on daca, on ...