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The outcome and doesn't concede. do you think that 2000, what happened with al gore is any sort of analogy here? >> no. absolutely not. i keep hearing people on the right saying that. al gore had conceded to george w. bush the election in a very noble and early fashion and then found out that there was going to be a need for a recount in florida and then pulled back and said let's wait. what donald trump is doing is before even a single vote is cast, casting aspersions on our entire free and fair elections. that's one of our great exports around the world. in fact many americans go and monitor...

Grand jury investigation but we need to get to the bottom of it and be very careful about facts and casting aspersions. >> nobody is making excuses here. >> the clinton campaign did try to distance themselves from the story, but is the damage already done? >> this is a damning tape, there's no doubt about it, i definitely agree with carl there should be some investigations. i think congress should investigate this. what was going on, also foval was talking about voter fraud and getting rental cars for voters in other states and moving them around. what about that. is that real? was he just tal...

Imagine if we had a commando raid coming out of afghanistan into pakistan. doing what was done in the raid in iraq the other day. you wouldn't say we have combat in pakistan. you would say we launched a raid as we did on the bin laden compound. so it seems to me a valid distinction. the only thing i think is really important is that the person who was involved in this. in special opps hero who died in this. should be eligible for combat decorations. >> and we heard that he will be. >> and the family will be eligible for the appropriate benefits. as long as you adhere to that think the semantic...

Rhetoric and the vilification, rhetoric and the vilification of people like donald trump who are casting aspersions and saying some pretty racist things about whole groups of americans based on their ethnic back ground. we need to speak to the gentle ross at this and the goodness of the american people. >> people will say this. it is sort of a law of political gravity. that people that are ahead want less debates. the rules the rules. in hillary clinton's position, you would be fine with six. >> here's the thing, chris. the dnc members were never, ever consulted about these rules consulted abo...

Nominee? >> i can't think of another reason why they would do this other than the instinct that party established leaders have to circle the wagons around the inevitable front-runner. when i asked about the, in minneapolis, whose interest does this serve? how could this possibly help us for the fall? how could this help us get our message out? i assume they're circling the wagons around the front-runner as her descend continues. it is not good for the party or the country. we need to be talking about the ideas that actually matter the most to people around their kitchen table how many we make ...