Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111002:15:19:00
Nationwide, there were two other candidates on the last debate that did not have the poll numbers that i did. look, it's a catch-22. if you don't take the corrupting money and buy a presence, you need to get on the polls. but you -- i mean, you need to get on the debates. but if you can't get on the polls, they won't let you on the debates. >> all right. >> it's a catch-22 alex. i'm going to ask you, sir, will you feel like you have accomplished something if your candidacy results in being a statement candidacy or will you only be happy if you have to send out change of address cards to 1600...