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Is not necessarily stopping the acts. in terms of a broader recognition, we have to take a deep look at this, a combination of mental health professionals, academia, places of worship, to look at why are we trending this way, what is the need for people to find this recogniz recognitit recognition in faith or love of family or some other greater, higher purpose. rob: a lot of people talk about -- everybody wants to blame something. a lot of people in this country think that guns are the problem here. it sounds to me you think this is a mental health issue. >> i do think it's a mental health is...

Augusts. it's not -- causation. it's not the existence of the firearm. it's the use. if you look at our shootings, in the garlic festival in california, law enforcement enft engaged and stopped the shooter in under two minutes. they had armed law enforcement there for the events. there still was casualties. you take an aggregate of a four minute response of law enforcement responding, because law enforcement has a singular objective when they get the call for an active shooter. that is to stop the shooter, if there's only one officer that arrives, he or she is not waiting for back up. they're ...