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One is, he clearly was just directed by his defense attorneys to show no emotion either way. no matter what he did, it would be viewed as sneering or not being sympathetic enough. the other thing that's clear, at least from what i can take away, is dzhokhar will not testify in the sentencing phase of this, that we will not hear his voice. he's a variable that's too hard for the defense attorneys to control. they can control his friends, his family, you know, a psychiatrist or doctors who might testify about him. he will not remain -- he will not go on the stand i can bet. it's a big deal here ...

Why would he surrender? how do you make him do that? >> you know, he has his alleged list of grievances against the lapd. this would be in furtherance to go out and tell his story. going out in a blaze of glory, the story ends. i would think his option is to find a way to tell his story. so we can watch the cell justice system. >> you mean two or three years to put out his pr. >> exactly. the death penalty in kralss, my grandson will be buried before they put him to death. >> he knows that. let me ask you about his situation. the attitude he has towards the lapd. what do you make of it? you fi...