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Us talking about it and debating it but there's no actual serious proposal that's going to be put forward to arm teachers. it's not going to happen. to me it's a distraction to take away attention from actual legislative ideas that are up there on the hill right now. >> given how ryan just framed this and i think he's exactly right. we often in the media start chasing the shiny things like his comment today saying, oh, i would have stormed into the high school whether i had a weapon or not. what did you think when you heard the president say that? >> a pretty appalling statement. i will say, l...

Literally killed, hunted down in their schools, you have to do everything humanly possible to stop that. and what donald trump is trying to do, he's trying to deal with the shooter and it's fine, great, mental health is important to deal with, absolutely. raising the age limit is important, absolutely. but let's not forget in vegas the guy was 64 years old. in orlando that kid was 29 years old. you just can't deal with half the problem, you have to deal with the other half which is universal background check which is dealing with why do we have weapons of war in the streets of the u.s.? that i...

>> i don't think they're one part, joe. >> better way for me to state the question. do you think that's what the democratic party's rob was in 2016, that they were too centrist? no, i don't. i hopefully hope we remain in a centrist position. i think those that ahad vo advor sanders, if we had done that, we would have won. it's a counter factual. >> i don't think it has to do with ideology so much. i don't think it has to do with ideology. i saw donald trump walk on the football field last night. i wasn't particular losed with it. i turned no mika, look at that when he walks out like that i rem...

Room there lawrence. you are not the only one who feels for these people. president trump has said these are incredible kids. i want to put like to put this in perspective. there are three really important points i want to make here tonight. first of all this gets underreported steven miller the author of the raise act which proposed cutting illegal immigration in half and everybody pretty much in politics said it was dead on arrival has no longer been accepted into the room. he has no longer been invited to the conversationsinconversationsgoi. that is more of a centrist position. second of al...

Basis, he wants even to close to the nomination. the country doesn't want division. we are second by how much divisiveness there already is. a country want someone to pull us together. i think frankly somebody like governor mccullough of virginia may be a more formidable candidate in 2,020 because he can occupy a more centrist position. i would love to run against eric holder. >> martha: let me ask you this before you go. you'll be on capitol hill tomorrow. who are you meeting with and what will you tell them? >> we are going to talk about how we handle moving toward 2018, what the lessons are...