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focused on violent military tactics. i want to bring in national security analyst, julia, a former department of homeland security assistant secretary and she is also the author of the devil never sleeps, learning to live in an age of disaster. thank you for coming on. as terrifying as the attack on the capital was, with this new information, do you get the sense that it could've been much, much worse? >> absolutely. the amount of weaponry that the proud boys alone had, as well as the oath keepers, just suggests that they were ready for some sort of activity that would've been much m...

an ongoing threat to our democracy today. "washington post" is out with new reporting that an election official in a rural georgia county threw open the doors to a stop the steal activist who was looking to probe election results there, looking for fraud, fraud that we all know now simply does not exist. that activist later claimed to have arranged for investigators to fly down to that georgia county to copy data from voting equipment. from the post reporting, quote, trump had carried the conservative county by 40 points but election supervisor misty hampton said she remained suspici...

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That could have been exacerbated and is there any way to check on what's happening in there? >> well, if you're using a new material, that's what this certification process is for. if you want to break ground and use carbon fiber and perfect it for going underwater, there are 3d building rockets now, a start up that's 3d building rocket and they're innovating, and they don't have people on them. he should not have been -- if he's putting test pilots in them, that's one thing. my brother flew f-16s for 25 years, if he became a test pilot after that service, he would have known what he was doing...

The vote count. why do they want to slow down the vote counting? because they're going to claim that a slow vote count is a sign of fraud. so they simultaneously make it harder for states to count ballots quickly and then use the fact that it's slow as a rationale to dispute those results. the second thing i think we're going to see them do is gin up their base and try to, frankly, intimidate either directly or just atmospherically state and local election officials who are under a lot of stress on election day and the days after in their own tallying and certification processes. >> you really...