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For evidence. pence and doocy have a close relationship, knew each other before the white house, and mike pence made several calls to the governor of arizona asking him, do we have any fraud, have you found anything, and every time, governor doosy said no, and mike pence went back to former president trump and reported back, and he would not going to overturn the election in arizona, the governor wasn't. >> do we know about the special counsel looking into president trump's interference in the 020 election, if he is look nook the specific call that trump made to the then arizona governor? >> w...

When they struck down the signature student debt forgiveness program and frankly he believes they got it wrong and president biden says while friday's decision closes one path, he will seek another. now the new path is grounded in the higher education act of 1965, and a different law that the white house believes provides president biden with authority to do that widespread student debt cancellation that he has promised as a campaign promise. but they say that it will take a long time. it will take months, really, to get it off the ground, and they wouldn't say whether or not the 40 million es...

Others, to overturn the election in 2020. >> you know what i found interesting, too, in your reporting is that this phone call from trump to then governor doocy came during a live stream throughout the state in the middle of him signing these documents, certifying biden's win in the state. >> governor doocy didn't answer that phone call to be clear. he called him back later. he called as the governor was on live stream, at a podium about, to sign biden's win, obviously the former president did not want him to do that call at that time. >> you report that according to one republican donor, dooc...

Pursue every possible avenue, and it is just heartbreaking, to be very clear, the supreme court delivered two gut punches to the american people this week, by not allowing that debt for over 40 million people to be reduced, and also what they did with affirmative action. so president biden had no choice, he's got to look at every possible path, every everybody to provide that debt relief. what happens to the american public this week, there's no upside there. everybody loses. >> i want to talk about affirmative action in just a moment. but one more here on cancellation of student debt. there w...

Government has been talking about. >> nic robertson, appreciate it. thank you. the biden administration is expected to decide soon whether to send controversial cluster munitions to ukraine. the white house has been reluctant because of the risk they could pose to civilians. >> but the administration is now seriously considering it, as ukraine's counter-offensive is off to a slow start. cnn national security reporter natasha bertrand has details. >> reporter: cnn has learned that the biden administration is strongly considering sending controversial cluster munitions to ukraine as the counte...