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Vote i'm confident it will pass. >> i'll try one more time. if we can take this as a stand-alone issue because it's at the center of the debate what's happening in the senate today -- >> it's not a stand alone issue. >> you're talking about legislative questions. i'm talking about your personal view about d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> you want to make it about that. chuck schumer wants to make it about that. you want to make it a stand alone issue. >> i don't want to make it a stand alone issue. i'm curious as to what you think. i want to know, do you think d.r.e.a.m.ers should stay in this country. >> an...

Republicans think they're going to win but they control all of government at this point and you have the president's aides, including mark short, his legislative affairs director, going out and blaming congress as an institution for this shutdown, not helpful to republicans on capitol hill no matter what you think of the issue and right now in these early stages here you have a president in pittsburgh and his legislative affairs director yesterday was on a panel at the university of virginia senator in washington, d.c. you don't have an engaged white house here, whether the president is helpfu...

Republicans on capitol hill who feel perfectly fine with this issue and they are people the president listens to day in and day out. >> kasie predicted in our last hour along with jake that we are headed toward a shutdown at midnight tonight. what's the one thing that could happen today that might prevent it? are we more likely to get what chuck schumer proposed, a four to five day extension so they can continue to negotiate this deal? >> i think it's a possibility, willie, that they'll hold a vote in the senate, that this game of chicken will be resolved in that way and that will have some wa...

Exchange for that and i understand that and that's the negotiation you have to engage in. >> not in exchange. we want those prioritized because again that's what the american people elected us to do. there's no question about that. so why is now the democrats so focused -- we had an election, they elected us to do these things and now they're saying no, no, we can't do those. we have to deal with these 700,000 individuals. that has to be first. i don't think that's what the election was about and what we were sent here to accomplish. >> so is it that you haven't made up your mind or you're not...

>> i want to clarify your position. do you believe d.r.e.a.m.ers should be protected? should be allowed to stay in the country but it should not be part of the government funding bill we're looking at today? >> i think we're going to have to deal with that issue. >> do you think they should be protected? >> i think there's a prioritizing that has to take place and a focus that has to take place that is consistent with what the american people sent us here to accomplish. >> do you believe, do you agree with the 87% of people in a new poll who believe that d.r.e.a.m.ers should be allowed to stay...