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Republicans on that committee that came to that specific conclusion. their democratic colleagues were not so sure pointing out the committee failed to interview key players before the republicans ended their investigation. among them, paul manafort, michael flynn and the russian lawyer involved in that 2016 trump tower meeting. but the house committee we know is not the only game in town. robert mueller's team is still investigating collusion, according to hose wthose who han interview. one of them joins me now. michael caputo was a trump campaign manager from 2015 to 2016 and recently sat dow...

This comes together and they have to make a decision, they know everything and they're not going to find russian collusion. and if they don't after knowing everything, i think the american people can rest easy. >> one final question. rudy giuliani referred to fbi agents over the weekend, i believe -- or last week -- as storm troopers. in an interview with me last year, you compared the fbi to our own version of the kgb. now that you've sat down with the special counsel, do you believe that those descriptions are still accurate? >> i believe that the special counsel is a separate entity entirel...

Anymore. >> how did the white house think giuliani did? here's how giuliani rated his own tv performance. we all feel pretty good that we've got everything kind of straightened out and we're setting the agenda. "kind of straightened out?" really? what we still don't know -- when was the mapayment made to the adult film star? what precipitated the payment? if he knew about it, if so, when? giuliani technically isn't representing the president in the stormy daniels case. he was hired for the mueller investigation. also he's making a bit more confusing. so will the president interview with muelle...

Investigations, including the mueller investigation. chris, what do you think of the idea of this president pleading the fifth? the political stakes don't seem like they might have been -- i don't know a decade ago -- certainly not during the nixon era. >> i would say the political stakes are something that president trump is focusing in on very carefully right now. he is obviously trying to kick up a lot of dust around the investigation. his criticism of mob muellerbob team has been ramped up recently and rudy giuliani is more constantly criticizing the investigation. this could prove useful ...

They are republicans. at least we should note that they have in the past been affiliated with the republican party. so bottom line -- this is a president who still is lashes out and really seems to be getting the green light from his newly installed legal team that it is okay to more aggressively go after the special counsel. >> let's also not forget that this president is the one who appointed rod rosenstein. matt, the stormy daniels case and the saga surrounding the payment is just a story that refuses to go away. we started covering it in earnest again in january. it was bubbling just befor...