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Into a character issue about the person that was leveling the charges, and i think people saw someone who was very accessible, very relatable, a mother, a christian, as she said, outraged about this. and i thought it was a really effective rebuttal. but where we are is we see all over the country these kinds of attacks being leveled. there is profit in it. i think republicans see profit in it certainly within their own party. you see what's happening in florida. and so, you know, i don't think it's going to stop. but it is more likely to stop or at least slow down if people like senator mcmorr...

Conference, i think it's fine until the two leaders can come to some sort of consensus, there's really no point in sort of having this photo op, essentially and a press conference that doesn't really tell the world what they are really working on. i think the good thing is, joe biden has had 40 years of working girl barely committed ten, it would've done work on the international affairs, he's worked with leaders, not just in his role as vice president but as his role as a senator and he's keenly aware, and we've seen this, i think the character issue with joe biden's. but we want to put the a...

On various committees in the senate where he's done work on international affairs. he's worked with leaders not just in his role as vice president but in his role as a senator, and he's keenly aware -- and we've seen this -- i think it's a character issue with joe biden that he wants to put the american people first. however, he wants to position america as a partner with our various other countries, adversaries or not, so that we're more safe, not just domestically and abroad. i think that's part of his foundation of really trying to come to the table and be very firm of what america will or ...

Widmer website. >> he used it to pick up chicks. instead of using it to get evidence, he was using it to get hot babes. >> it sounds like it fell apart for you on the character issue. >> it did. for me, by the third trial, the facts incident change, but the wallpaper of the case changed. >> day two in the courthouse was going round and round. >> my stomach was cramping. my shoulders were starting. i felt awful. >> i was nauseous. i hadn't felt that way for 20 years. >> the jurors were working their way through the evidence. they parsed the 911 call. >> my wife fell asleep in the bathtub, i thi...

Problems. >> so, we always talked about with bill clinton with the character issue, would that count. >> right. >> and it never does. people say they're going to vote on character and don't vote on character. now, maybe they will. >> my point is in addition to the division between base versus reaching out to disaffected trump voters is the thing that buttigieg brought up before. do you beat trump by meeting ugliness with ugliness, provocation with provocation? do you play his game? i think he's right that if you do that you're always going to lose. he's going to be better at ugly than you. the...