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Consistency is a character issue, it's possible. if you're governor o'malley, chafee, webb, you're on the fringe, looking for a breakthrough. if you take a gratuitous shot at hillary clinton and don't connect the two dots and don't make it about why you're better, it's a huge risk. including senator sanders, but for the breakthrough candidates, they need relevance, they will be tougher maybe than anyone else. but to david's point, he's popular among democrats. they may have doubts about her but a gratuitous shot is a huge risk. >> i agree with it. to see what the undercard candidates do, linco...

The unpopular side of a general election campaign i'm don't think the country's enthused about trade. >> right. >> this is not a new development. all of other issues, i said the other day, flip-flopping, if that's what they are, is less egregious if you flop on to the popular side. >> it could be seen as a character issue. >> yeah. >> that's the risk. >> that's the risk. >> and democrats trust her. 68% of democrats find hillary clinton -- >> for the general election. >> voters, i think that's a question she's going to have to answer er. that's why it's important she have solid answers about th...

That big a deal when it's over, but what is a big deal is the question of her character. it really comes down to character. >> i'll get back to you, but i want to know what this character issue is. is this a sign of something really significant about her ability to be fit for the presidency, or is it a fishing expedition, as you sort of mentioned? paula jones, and then monica and impeachment. they went looking for white water and they got paula along the way. so is this a trolling expedition, trolling along the way, without having a target? >> couple of things. bill clinton managed to get the ...

They're forced to, they'll tell, okay, well, there was this, and yes, well, maybe there was this, and then finally comes the apology. >> that's not always the case. what was white water? what was it? >> but they don't say what is true. >> what was white water? what was travel gate? what are all these gates? >> i'm sure they're hoping that will be another e-mail gate, but i do i think there's a difference when the fbi steps in to do the work. i don't dislike hillary clinton and this may prove to be not that big a deal when it's over, but what is a big deal is the question of her character. it r...

Hate the name mckinley. he knows ohio has more electoral votes than alaska so maybe he's thinking ahead and sucking up to the people of the buffalo state. >> nobody can ever accuse trump of being dumb. >> kevin, let's talk about e-mails now, shall we? overnight, 7,000 e-mails were released. they talk about fish. there's a lot of indication of bloom bloom bloomenthal. the des moines register poll from earlier this week where voters were asked, how important are hillary clinton's e-mails. 61% say unimportant. 21% say somewhat important. so, do people really care about this? >> look, i think they...