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>> as you may have heard, watergate has entered donald trump's lexicon on the stump. his rallying cry about the hillary clinton e-mail story. but today a man who knows more about watergate than just about anyone else, wrote in the "new york times," no e-mail gate is not worse than watergate. john dean served as white house counsel to president richard nixon. his testimony to the senate and investigators helped lead to nixon's resignation for his role in the cover up. dean pleaded guilty to obstruct justice, spent four months in custody. john dean has been kind enough to join us in a discussion...

In my opinion. the investigation is the biggest political scandal since watergate. this is the biggest scandal since watergate. this is the biggest scandal since watergate. >> as you may have heard, watergate has entered donald trump's lexicon on the stump. his rallying cry about the hillary clinton e-mail story. but today a man who knows more about watergate than just about anyone else, wrote in the "new york times," no e-mail gate is not worse than watergate. john dean served as white house counsel to president richard nixon. his testimony to the senate and investigators helped lead to nixon...

E-mails that might have done some damage, i don't think we know this yet. but i think that's the thing. but separate from that is the question of how the clintons, and they are dual actors, how they always, their default position is, don't say anything, don't tell anything, and when they're forced to, they'll tell, okay, well, there was this, and yes, well, maybe there was this, and then finally comes the apology. >> that's not always the case. what was white water? what was it? >> but they don't say what is true. >> what was white water? what was travel gate? what are all these gates? >> i'm ...

They're forced to, they'll tell, okay, well, there was this, and yes, well, maybe there was this, and then finally comes the apology. >> that's not always the case. what was white water? what was it? >> but they don't say what is true. >> what was white water? what was travel gate? what are all these gates? >> i'm sure they're hoping that will be another e-mail gate, but i do i think there's a difference when the fbi steps in to do the work. i don't dislike hillary clinton and this may prove to be not that big a deal when it's over, but what is a big deal is the question of her character. it r...

Wins on this front you will see him in week one against the steelers. something steelers fans do not want to hear. >> should i draft him in my fantasy league. >> yes you should. >> my last question was my most important. thank you. coming up from so called deflategate to so called e-mail-gate. hours from now the state department expected to release the largest batch of e-mails from hillary clinton's private server yet. nbc's pete williams is on that. we'll have that on the other side of the break. also president obama becoming if first sitting president to visit the arctic of alaska. we'll...