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election. this week, the fulton county's special gown jury subpoenaed seven of trump's cronies. that included none other than senator lindsey graham. graham's attorneys say that they will challenge the 14 -- they claim this is all politics. take a listen to what they had to say about that in exclusive interview with blaine alexander. >> he called it a fishing expedition. he said this was nothing but politics. >> what do i have to gain from these politics? >> she almost brushed dirt off her shoulder when she said that. this might not stop there. donald trump himself might be maximalis...

Msnbc legal analyst charles. this is a former brooklyn prosecutor. we also are with general ross, as your correspondent for times magazine. she is also an msnbc contributor. very thrilled to have you both here. charles, i want to start with you. i want to just remind people why we are even here in the first place. take a listen to the call that donald trump made back in 2020, we will talk about it on the other side. >> all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes. that is one more than we have. we won the state. flipping the state is a great testament to our country. >> i think i...

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In making this happen. that is what you are seeing. there are different parts of this investigation. the special grand jury continues to unfold. >> okay. before i bring in general, charles, i want to ask you something, this is blowing my mind. the entire january six investigation and all the tentacles that has, it is all blowing my mind. lindsey graham is saying that his lawyers are challenging the subpoena. that was not a choice. you never hear about lamont jenkins from southwest atlanta. you don't hear if he is deciding to cooperate with prosecutors. how is it that these people, time and aga...