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Border, charles? >> you start with a sentence. it's very simple. people say oh fences don't work. you ke a ladder. well, then you build two fences. triple strand fences. san diego did that in the mid 90's and within a decade, the illegal immigration rate at that point was reduced by 90% and people ended up going through other places like arizona. if fences don't work, why is there one around the white house? if they don't work, why is it that the israeli fence would separate israel from the west bank has cut down terror attacks within israel by 99%. fences work. yes, there are parts of the bor...

Too. i don't know if that's a lock. >> why doesn't he do it? unconstitutional? >> he wants to do it himself. >> that's why i'm not sure he is serious. >> okay. that's legitimate. >> that's what a president does who is serious. >> i have got it take a break in the a minute. i'm going to hold charles over to talk about patriotism in a new poll. mexico i think has to be held accountable. if they don't start to patrol their own border and help us on ours. we do trade sanctions. are you on that? >> oh yeah and i would send an aircraft carrier offshore just to send a message. >> okay. but they can't...

>> i am indicating its numbers are fairly constant and part of the drop in obama's ratings is that he is insufficiently liberal. i think, you know, the -- as you say, the numbers from gallup about self-identity by ideology are constant like 30 years. about 20% say they are liberal 40% say they are conservative. 35% are moderate. the other five% have no idea what the hell is going on oof course they are the ones that decide the election. >> all right, charles, we appreciate it one footnote after five months "things that matter still on the best seller list. take it to the beach, you will like i...

Back of the book segment tonight, we continue with charles krauthammer who is in washington this evening. new poll, charles, asked adults do you often feel proud to be an american? 56% indicated they do. the rest 44%, big number, say no, not often. about american exceptionism, just 28% believe america stands above all the other countries in the world. 70% do not see it that way. so, charles refresh your recollection surprised by those numbers? women no, not really. the reason is if you break it town by ideology or by party. it's mostly democrats and liberals. for conservatives the numbers are ...